So guys, today I'm with my friend, Rachel. And crazy turn of events, we met each other. We were at the mosaic conference in LA two years ago, we've kept in touch. And if you guys saw my Bob Gough video from earlier this year, I was talking about my giving key, which said, dream on it. And I was trying to figure out who in my life was going after big, crazy dreams. Well, Rachel and I talked, and then she actually had a really big dream that she went after this year. So I think the working title for this episode is going to be how to go from dreamer to doer, because she got my dream key, and has in turn, decided that this year, no pandemic was going to stop her. She was going full throttle into pursuing those dreams. So that's what we're talking about today. Right? So exciting. Good. I love it so much. So why don't you give us a little bit of a backstory on what caused you to move to LA? And what is it exactly that you are trying to do right now? Well, I moved to LA, I had a dream to move to LA, on and off for a while. And then in 2018, when I went to mosaic conference and met you, which is fabulous. Something awakened in me. And I said, whatever is going on in mosaic, I have to be a part of this, I want to be a part of this, whatever that's gonna look like I want to build my life in LA, I want to be a part of a church that loves creativity and thrives with creativity. And I just want to I want to do life in LA. And I just kind of had this dream of I have no idea what its gonna look like, but I have gifts I feel like that aren't even tapped into. And I think mosaic and just doing life in LA will unlock that. So then we started to go to the dream. And that's and that's not where the story ends for you because you are pursuing becoming a stylist right now, too, right? I am. I am. Yeah. So let's go there next. Yes. So, it's been really amazing. Because, you know, when I reached out to you, when you're talking about Bob Gough and your dream key, I was actually in a place where dreaming was really hard for me. Where I felt like dreaming wasn't really worth it anymore. Or if I'm dreams, like everyone else's dreams might come to be, but mine probably won't. Because it had been a couple years since I had had the dream to move to LA. And there seemed to be like no movement on it. And I had just had some dreams in the past couple years just kind of crumble. And so I was so inspired by you, I felt like it was God kind of awakening something in me again, of being like, it's time to get this back. Like you are a dreamer, it's time to get this back. So getting that dream key from you, it almost felt like a it felt like a deposit of something or just like some like a memorial, you know how like they talked about the Old Testament, like a memorial of this is what is coming back in my life. And then it just started rolling like things opened up for me to move moved to mosaic in the wildest way. It was miracle after miracle after miracle for me to be in LA. And then I was like, Well, what else can I do and what what other dreams have I maybe even not let myself dream. And so being here, and having the space of like not having a job, having a lot of extra time. It almost like unlocked more in me. So I've always loved style. I've worked in retail and worked as a stylist like in and out, okay, as a part of a job. But I found that when I was working, I would always love when people came in and just helping them talk through things. And I found like it was a place where it can be a lot, a lot deeper of a conversation. And so I just thought, Okay, I love helping people put things together. I love helping people go through their wardrobe. But I also like people, I also love helping people believe the best about themselves and want and find ways to be who they want to be in the world. Yes, and whether or not like we think about it, I think that is reflected in the way that we dress. And so it's been really neat to start this business and just be a part of helping people be like, This is what I believe and this is how it's reflected. But what can I change? Like, how can I believe differently about myself? And so I'm trying to launch a business that's a stylist and a therapist, stylist and a storyteller. I love it. I love that so much and I have so many questions there but I want to I want to bring attention first to the fact of my outfit because this was intentional. because you're talking about how clothes are supposed to mean something, and I'm wearing my NASA jacket, because crazy enough NASA in the Bible is Greek for to lift, which I don't even know if they knew that whenever they came up with the name of last NASA like space stuff, but I figured that out and it blew my mind. And this is to represent that this year 2021 You bout to lift the lid on it with your dreams, girl. You are amazing. There it is. Love that so much. I love that so much. And I love the intentionality. And it's also just a great jacket. Thank you just aesthetically pleasing. No, listen, I went to one of the aerospace museums and bought these patches. So this was like a bear jacket. And I got the patches on. So I totally DIY this thing. Well, I love it. So it's an original. Yes, it isn't original. So if you're listening on the podcast and not on YouTube, sorry about you, but you should see this jacket. Yeah. Okay, so. So you're entering the stylus venture, which is no doubt, I'm assuming, correct me if I'm wrong, very daunting, because one you live in LA, to this is in the middle of the pandemic, where some people were like, I'm not spending any money for the whole year. And which then you're like, What am I doing? So tell me first, what is one big hurdle you have over? You've had to overcome just getting the ball rolling with this? Hmm. You know, I think probably, there's probably been two. So I made they're equal. So maybe I'll make them super brief. Because I would say one is just my own self talk, getting over my own negative self talk, and my own ability to like, self sabotage dreams. I think there is just, I think as dreamers and creative sometimes we can just be like, there's not a place for this. Yeah. And but that's part of being a dreamer is like believing that there is a place for it, and then doing it, right, you're doing it before someone is like, hey, we need this. So I think it's been about believing that i Believing in this dream and believing in it, and just going forward with it. And then I would say the second hurdle is Yeah, finding clients and finding people that have the financial capacity to kind of do the buy in for it. And, yeah, just how do you market something that seems like a luxury in a pandemic? And just kind of how do I figure out pricing? And how do I kind of figure out my audience or figure out who I'm working with? And so, yeah, I would say pricing and just kind of finding my niche in LA. And you said at the beginning, and I want to I want to touch back on that you said, I saw so many other people's dreams happening that I didn't actually think it would happen for me. And I know that a lot of people feel that it's this limiting belief, like you're talking about, but what was it for you that made you think you we're not going to get the same opportunity that other people did? Or maybe more open ended? Like, what do you think it is with with us as humans? Why do we go there? Yeah, I think that's a great question. And this is a conversation that I've had with so many creatives and so many Dreamers. And I think that's why we can settle in life. And I think that's why we can grow bitter or resentful because we stopped dreaming. And I think that sometimes it can take one small disappointment, right, sometimes I think it can be one dream that didn't go well. And then that lodged within us either a belief about ourselves a belief or belief about the world. Because I think, the way we dream and what we believe about ourselves and what we believe about others in the world, they they go hand in hand. And so like i and that also what, like that's the path to making a dream happen. Because if I have a dream, but I don't believe that I'm good enough. If I think small of myself, I think small God, I think small brothers, I'm not going to do the things that would actually get that dream off the ground to be real trauma. I think trauma distorts like can really impact our brains and can really impact our creativity. So if we're, if we've gone through trauma, if we're going through chronic any kind of chronic stress that inevitably eats up our ability to be creative, or anxiety, and then I think disappointment keeps us from dreaming. Yeah, where the part in the brain is in the limbic system is where we kind of have our base for creativity. That's where kind of Our mind is able to kind of relax and create and find new connections, build new connections between things, dream, think of new things. And when we go through trauma, trauma not only impacts our bodies, and it also impacts our minds and our brains. And so that same place in our brain can be so impacted by that, that it almost like locks up the capacity to create and we and it can be override it by other parts of our brains that are now activated. And so that's why you can kind of feel like there's a lot of hyper vigilance or just like a lot of fear or a lot of responses, you're operating out of a different part of your brain, then the place where creativity and connection flows from those so fascinating. When I when I learned that recently, I was just like, wow, like, yes, because that that, I mean, that to me, just shows God's love that he puts him in the same place because he's like, Hey, you are created to create. And therefore, I want the opportunity to walk alongside you as you heal from trauma. I love that. And I think it's so validating. Because I think a lot of times when people are healing from trauma, they don't understand that it actually impacted their brains. It's not just them not being able to be creative. And I think it can start a shame narrative. But when you really realize it, like part of your brain actually was really deeply impacted by this. You have to physically, physiologically heal at the same time you emotionally and spiritually heal. Yeah, that was so great. I want to know, what was the first really small step you had to take? It was June, I was on vacation with my family. And my lease in Boston was up in September. And I know a lot of people love Boston just was not the place for me. And, and so I remember being like, okay, like, and I just talked to God about a lot of these conversations with God and people around me. But I just said, okay, you know, what, like, what is it the root of these dreams, and it's really at the base is like being somewhere sunny and warm. And believing that that's going to open up something else for me. And so it was this idea, like I had a friend in Tampa, who said, Hey, you can move here in September for a month. And I want you to have the space to dream because I was working as a therapist, and my schedule was crazy. In Boston, I didn't have any extra capacity. And so I think the first step was, you know, even if it's not the outcome I wanted for I need a new place to dream, I need a new place. And so it was almost my willingness to move another place that started things rolling. So then I looked into Hawaii, I was looking in Tampa, I was looking these places. And I had a conversation with a girl who opened up her apartment to me, and we just prayed. And I was like, This is what I want. I want to move to LA I want to pursue creativity. I want to be a part of mosaic. I want to live in Santa Monica and I want to live with someone who goes to mosaic. And the next day I woke up to a text from a friend in Santa Monica saying hey, my friend, my friend who goes to mosaic who lives in Santa Monica needs a roommate ASAP. I cannot. What that right there is why you pray circles around your dreams. Yes, God is gonna make it happen. Yes, part of his will. Oh, girl, it was so wild. It was just like one thing after another from that, but it was a domino effect. It was domino effect. And then I started having conversations about it and was like, Okay, I'll do this. And my car broke down. And a friend that I had only known for two months, paid the $1,500 car bill so that I could get a car to move across the country because and so it literally has been a series of little miracles that has allowed me to believe that this dream is also bigger than me. Because I think sometimes when we believe a dream is just about me, it's easy to talk ourselves out of it. But when we believe it's also in the heart of God or if we don't believe in God, if it's bigger than us. That's another piece of momentum. That's a whole word right there. Great. Great point. Your first action step was actually praying like you hear the dream was someone else. And then you prayed and God's like, got your girl. Like, here it is. Here it is. Yeah. Thanks for Thanks for chatting with me about it. I love your dreams, too. Um, no, let me ask you this. Did you wait until you felt confident before you started? Not like physically moving but like moving and acting on this? Or did you do it afraid? I 100% did afraid. Okay. The courage for that I think hard part of it was, like, just being ready for any kind of change was like, I just got to do something, you know, I think part of it was kind of believing what people were telling me like I have awesome friends, I have a great community. And for all of them to like, literally, there was not one person that was not on board with both me moving to LA and me starting a business as a stylist. Like, I've gotten nothing but being like you are, if you're meant to do this, like this is the time to do this. And so leaning on the, like the feedback of my people, and also just a lot of quotes and like, memories of how much God has come through in the past. And believing that, like, even if the outcome I'm hoping for doesn't work, it's not going to be the end of me. I think that yeah, that was the courage of like, I have faced almost any hard thing. And I've always gotten through it. Well, and and that's such a pivotal point, right there is because we all get trapped in like what's ahead of us. And you just said, No, you know what I did, I went backwards. And I remember what God already did. To make sure hey, I can still move forward. girl that was so good. I love that. Now, I want to talk more about your business, because you like, briefly gave an overview. But yeah, I want to hear in your mind what your goal with the business is, whatever direction you want to take that. And the vision as well. Perfect. So I have a vision for just being a stylist. But I it's interesting, I don't have a vision for being a celebrity stylist or this or that. But I think it's going to evolve over time. But my goal is basically to have conversations with people about what they wear, and how they feel about themselves and their body and what is going on there. And then how can we help you feel confident every day, I want people to feel like they can be their best selves. And I think who we are is reflected in what we wear. And what we wear shows what we feel about ourselves. And I just think of like people might I wrote this, but that's fine. But like I think of in Scripture sometimes when it talks about how like, we have to clothe ourselves and things like in actual attributes. And I just think that we clothe ourselves in lies and doubts and insecurities, or we don't know what to do with our body type, or we don't know how we fit in, or I think some of it too, is like people want to wear certain things. They don't think they're trendy enough or they're cool enough, or they don't have the money to do it. And so I think just this idea that there's always a way and I want people to feel closed in like confidence and joy and beauty and just feel like a million bucks, because they do and I think I don't want to be a stylist to just help people buy trendy clothes. I want to help people understand who they are and what they like and embody that. Yeah. I love that. So So what are you looking to do with that? How are you going to incorporate that so far? Is that something you're still working through as a therapist, I'm going to bring in two techniques to my styling that I think are going to be really important. The first is CBT cognitive behavioral therapy. And the other is Narrative Therapy. CBT helps us understand and recognize our thought patterns and our core beliefs. When we understand those more, we can connect it to our emotions, which help us understand our actions and reactions. So there's a circle between our thoughts, our emotions, and our actions, the more self aware we can become about that, the more we can help change some things to help us live more meaning filled and joy filled buys, our thoughts, actions and behaviors are also connected to the stories that are available to us and the stories that we're telling. So narrative therapy helps you understand the story of your life and the storylines that are creating the story that you're telling Him your life. And that is going to be connected to your style. And we have the ability to understand what events and what beliefs are making up the story that we're telling. And once we can see what that has been for us, then we get to choose if we want to continue to bring those things into the future, or we want to tell a different story. There are so many things that happen before we even put on our clothes. There are so many steps that we take before we step into our outfit for the day before we step into our closet. We are telling stories we are believing things about ourselves and nats where I want to work. This is the space that I really want to work on because I believe that you are inherently creative. You are designed to be confident you are designed To embrace your best self, and you are always becoming, and I want to go on that journey with you, and I want your wardrobe to reflect who you are becoming at the same time as the things in the values that are important to you. And sometimes our consumeristic culture can make it seem like we need more to have great style. But actually, I believe that we can really work within what you have and what is available to you to help create and discover your style. And so I want to be on this journey with you, for you to be your best self for you to embrace your best self. And find a way that reflects how you do that with your clothes, and choose a story that fits with who you're becoming. And so the consults that I've done so far have been like an hour to two hours. And we go through your wardrobe or we talk about your style, we help you discover your style, and we just kind of have a conversation along the way. And then at the end of it, I usually end with some practical tips, or I think in the future, I could think of adding on like a shopping package. So all buy three outfits for you. Send them your way, let me know what you think. And then you can return them. Kind of like a Stitch Fix. Yeah. And then I also just recently started styling at photoshoots. And so that's also been something really fun, a little bit less creativity, because you're they're coming in with options and or you have a certain genre they're looking for. But that would be another way to just be able to be behind the scenes pumping people up helping them feel beautiful. getting them ready for whatever the shoot is. Yeah. So because the body image and making people feel confident and seen is such a huge part of that. What is something that you Rachel intend to leave as a certain experience like, this is my Rachel experience? This is how this was different than everything else? I love that question. I hope that people can leave with a sense of understanding some of the whys in their life and the y's in their wardrobe. And I want people to leave feeling like they just unlocked a new part of themselves, they didn't know that they had or unlocked a new part of they went deeper than they ever thought they would go thinking about their clothes, but it allowed them to it almost like push them with the momentum to be someone that they never thought they could be. And so answering the whys, understanding the deep part of themselves, and then having the confidence that you don't have to be your stylist forever. My job is to work myself out of a job I want you to be able to create. So how do you intend to measure success with this? And what success looks like? Like what are your metrics so far? So so far, my success is literally going to be launching everything. Right? Like, yeah, I think I still get in a little bit of the swirls of doubt, if I'm totally honest. So I think a success for me will be launching everything. And then just building building a client base. But I think if I'm really dreaming big, like another success would be like making this kind of a new, like mock business model for styling. And so being able to train other people on how to do it or, or invite people in so that it can kind of become a new way for people to look at themselves and look at their wardrobe. At this point, you've been able to have like some of these interactions, like pilot experiences for people, right. So you've been able to prove that there's a need in the market for it. Mm hmm. Yeah. So I've been I did the first like, initial email of like, Hey, friends, I'm launching this. I've done it with like six or seven friends. And they've all just been remarkably deep and unique experiences. Everyone at the end of it was like, I feel like it was just a therapy session. Wow. Like, this was not what I was expecting. have asked for some follow up calls to keep going. So it's been really special. That's so cool. And that's in that such a big hurdle for people because they're like, Who would want this? That's a great question. Go and find out, go find it. And you're like, Yeah, let's just go with people that know and love me. So that's such a that's such a great start. Okay, so I'm listening. And I have a couple of things that I've been thinking through that I was like, This is what I would want if I had a personal stylist. So the first thing I'm thinking about is right now I am currently in a 30 day like power workout. Shout out to Deanna necessery because I'm taking her class. So Deanna if you're listening, I love you girl. But one of the things she's doing is she has a journaling everyday we talked about one question related to Our lifestyles. And what I really liked about this is I thought about, what if I had to have a confidence journal, working with my stylist, where I'm like, actually figuring out where it what, how do I feel most confident, because that's like a huge thing, especially for women. And I'm just like, if I had to write my outfits, I feel like I would definitely put a lot more consideration into what I'm actually wearing that way. So that was my first thing. Love that. I think that that's so great. Because I think that could be something that like, builds beyond even a concept with me. So before people meet with me, I asked them to pick out their top three outfits, in their work right out of their closet and have it ready to go, like, their favorite things they love to wear. And then pick out two things that are still in their closet that they never wear, because we're going to talk about that. Okay, and then pick out what is who is one person whose style like, inspires you the most? Yes. And so they're, they're ready with that there's like some raw material there. Because that is what helps us dive in and keep, keep going. Because it's kind of like that journal, like the thought and the reflection is what makes this different. Yes, it's a holistic experience that too, it's not just like clothes on my body. And then the second thing, so speaking of giving keys, because this is like such an la idea of not giving keys. But what if you asked people right from the beginning, if you could define the style you would love to have in one word, what would it be? So? So say, mine was like, fearless, okay. What are things that would give someone like a fearless wardrobe? bold, colorful, eccentric, and stuff like that. And it just starts molding the person into like, what do I want to embody? What do I want other people to see when they see me? So it's like, almost like word based. And I know that's like hot right now. Because we were like, what's your Word of the Year? You know, die right now? I think I think it could be cool. I love that idea. I love that. Because, yeah, that almost like really succinctly puts together something I've been working on is like, what are the words that I'm going to bring that I can offer? And then if I want someone to describe their style, but I love the one word thing, because it just is easy, and it allows things to bloom. Yeah, thank you. Thank you, girl. And, and I'm just gonna keep thinking about this. Because my thing is like, there's so many stylists out there that you have to figure out, what are you going to do that's different than everyone else. And I know that's at the, at the top of your mind. And I love that you have that therapist background, because you care so much more about the person in the clothes than the clothes. So I'll give you a little sneak peek. So the name I'm thinking for my business is golden ray collective. Oh, which I love. And then my friends and I were brainstorming taglines the other day, and we want the tagline to be exploring all the hues within you. I love it. Right. I love it. I feel like it's an LA collab with Sherwin Williams paints together. No, that's awesome. Exactly. So funny. So what is one thing that people who are listening to this and it's piqued their interest that they could do to support this venture for you? Amazing. So I would say a way to support would be getting in contact with me, I can give them my contact information. And it would be like sending me some Venmo to like help fund some things that would help me create more content and ways to socially network. Or if they have someone that they know, could use some help or use them, like wants to go through their wardrobe or needs help organizing or just could use some style up like if you want that or if you know someone who you think would be like, gifted by an hour consult with me then. Like, I would love to book something. Yeah, that's awesome. And because you mentioned Venmo, what are the costs? What would the Venmo be going towards? Like what costs or do you need help with at the moment? Yeah, so it would be one would be like hiring a photographer and a videographer because I want to tell more the story of my business, and I want it to be something that's like really beautiful and accessible. Sure, because I'm not like every other stylist. And so it would be hiring someone to get to upgrade from my like iPhone level at the moment. And then some of these social networking sites that I have learned about through some creative friends. There's like ongoing fees or just an entrance fee. And that would just really be helpful for me, my, I'm not working a ton at the moment, because LA is crazy. And my hours are totally cut for my job. So anything to just help me keep investing in this stream to create content or to help be able to invest in things that will have income down the road with you amazing. Yeah, I just keep I just keep going back to how impressive I find it to be that you decided that 2020 was going to be the year that you like you literally moved in the middle of the pandemic, la which was on full and is still on full lockdown. Like some people might call you crazy, but I think you're fabulous. Because that takes a lot of gumption. And, you know, like with the theme of this conversation be like how to how to go from dreamer to doer? What is what is one piece of wisdom that you would want to impart on someone who's like this has been in my heart? And I can't get it out? I can't seem to get it out on paper and take a step forward. Yeah, yeah. Well, one is just be kind to yourself where you are right now, because I've been there. I've been there for years before anything turned to action. And I think do do one small thing every day. And it will, it will make a difference over time. And, you know, for me, it was styling, it's it's like it's become send an email, do my first consult, start looking at branding colors, like just doing one thing and the direction of your dreams. And if you feel like you can't do one thing in the direction of your dreams, do one thing that inspires you. Like for me, I love walking around the city and taking pictures. I love watching a sunset in Malibu, do one thing that inspires you, because that's gonna unlock something within you, that might give you what you need to take the next step. And believing that you can do it, believing that you can do it. And I believe that God is in all things. But I think we also can sometimes use spiritual language that makes us wait for a neon sign before doing something. So I feel like I have this really unique story where God really did start doing some things that opened some doors for me and miraculously vnla and has provided some amazing things in terms of community and ways to serve, that I couldn't have orchestrated, but then has also kind of kept pushing me every day, like right every day, do something over time, that's been where we are in, talk to someone else about share your dream with someone else, because I can sometimes keep it within me because I'm like, Well, what if I'm gonna fail? Or what if no one else believes in this or what if that, but find the people that are for you, and talk to them about it. Because if they're really for you, they're gonna believe in you and help carry the load. Absolutely. That's, that's so good. That's so Bob Gough of you, because he's always like, you should tell everyone, including the cop that pulls you over about your dream. It should not be withheld from anybody. Like, hysterical, but also true. And then one thing, one thing that's really helped me is if you're someone who's like, what if what if, okay, go there. What if taken to the worst case scenario, you fail? You have no money. Okay? Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna get through it. You just have to believe it, because then sometimes it makes you confront i Oh, that was silly. You know? Yeah. But it almost like it loses its momentum, once you call it for what it is. Come on, because 2020 was the year that you decided I'm going to actually dream. Again, I want to just flush that out. Just kind of a little bit more to to close. Because what if people are listening to this much like you? And they're just like, Okay, well, I don't have any dreams. So this has been a cute conversation. But yeah, so was styling on your heart for a while? Or was this a new dream that you had? How did you go from like, I can't dream to I'm dreaming. And I'm going. I love that so much. Well, I'll be honest, it had a lot of raw moments to it. Sure. And so I think don't be afraid of the raw. I would say it took a series of things. I think one it took, like just letting myself in on the fact that I wasn't dreaming anymore. I think that sometimes See, we can push it off because it's too painful. But once I had like a conversation with myself and conversation with a good friend, and I was like, I'm seeing my friends live their dreams. And I just feel like so confused because I've had so many dreams that haven't come to be and I just feel like dreaming is not worth it anymore. And so I think I had to, I had to be there because you can't grow from where you don't acknowledge that you are. So I think just give yourself permission just to be like, This is where you are. And just also believe that you're not going to stay there and you're not meant to stay there. You know, I I'll just speak from my faith because I am a Christian. So that's a big part of how I relate to dreaming. But I would say prayer and reading. I started rereading the artisan soul by Erwin McManus and I listening to the battle ready podcast, and also by Erwin and Aaron, also by Irwin and Aaron McManus. So I think I just started letting myself intake things. And it was almost like I said, Okay, I this is not going to be fixed overnight, because this has been years in the making, like where I am right now has been years in the making. And so what do I need right now. And so you can't output if you don't have any positive input, and if your soul is not in a good place, right. And so I said, I have to get my soul and what I believe about myself in a good place. And so that meant reading meant worship, it meant doing creative things to just be creative and watching a lot of sunsets and talking to God about where I was. And I think it took moving to Los Angeles, there was something in like deciding to leave my job and move Boston and drive across the country in the middle of a pandemic, when everyone was like you were crazy. It showed me that I could do what I'm dreaming to do. And so I think just doing this, doing at least one small thing. Just show yourself that you can do the thing. It like doing those things built my confidence up that I can dream again, and it is possible for my dreams to come. But if I hadn't taken steps I wouldn't have ever had that experience. Just believe again, just try one more time again, and like, talk to God about it. And don't go on Instagram as much if it's really hard to dream right now. Or like limit your Instagram, or monitor yourself talk on Instagram. Because I think that when we see a lot of people living out their dreams, we also don't know all the behind the scenes, we don't know what's going on. And I think that that can feed into a narrative of what's not worth dreaming, or there's no place for me. That was great advice and insight. Can I just tell you a quick little story, of course. So I was I'm reviving Evernote right now in my computer because I'm working on a series of devotionals. And so I'm just like using that as my platform. And I came across this note that I wrote in 2014. And I think it was like the year I was dreaming of a blog and like never did it. But the whole blog post was it's okay to dream. And it was just such funny timing that I found it today before we were having this talk. And it was all about like the hang ups that keep us from dreaming, and God's heart for us to dream and why we have why we have such confidence that dreaming is not wasted, especially in God. One, so it was just so beautiful. What would you tell 2014 you, I would say you can trust the dreams that are in your heart. Sometimes we can believe that what God wants for us is always going to come from outside of us. And I think that's a narrative in the church. And it's a narrative that I grew up with that sometimes it can be easy to think that like what God's will is for our lives, or God's dreams for our lives, God's designs that's not going to come from within us and something that's going to come out but it's going to come from like people externally saying you should do something or like, you know, it's only going to come through the open doors, okay, instead of like taking the time to invest in our dreams and like believe that we can do something new. And I think especially for anyone who's gone through trauma, which I did, when I was younger, you really lose the ability to believe in yourself sometimes and you think that other people, other people can be more right than you other people know yourself better than you. And so then that becomes the way that you learn to dream. Or that becomes like the way you learn to open yourself up to new things is by like what other people believe or say that you can do. And I think that's where I wasn't wanting to 14. So I would say, I was inspired. I think God spoke to me then. But I think I was also I was giving myself such a box for my dreams. That's a good word. Don't put your dreams in a box and don't Oh, God in a box either. Yes. Hey, box free 20 2003 Especially now that you move, get the boxes out boxes are out of here. That's so funny. You know, I was just using this analogy this week of how so we tend to often have what I call the T Rex mentality where we have really short baby arms, but really long legs. And sometimes we treat our dreams like, oh, I can't reach you, you can't reach it. Because you have to walk towards it. You have to make movement and start doing it. And then of that, you can grab it, and love that so much. It's such a good analogy. And let you're like wait, you have legs. Don't forget that. All right. I've never asked anyone to do this before. But I want to I want to ask you, if you would like to pray for all the dreamers out there who are sitting on something today? Yeah, sure, let's do it. God, we thank You that we dream. Because you dream, we have been given the gift of dreaming because you're a dreamer. And you're an artist, and you love beauty and you love making new things. And I just thank you for your heart and your intention, your design for everyone who's listening, and everyone who's not listening that you have wired them specifically, to dream and to bring new things into the world. And so I ask that you would really just carve out space and time for these people to just be present with their dreams and hold on to them and nurture them, and that any lies or any things that they're believing that is going to want to take them out or has been taking them out that they wouldn't hold ground anymore in their lives. And I asked for just a refreshing vision to just fall on everyone in 2021, that it could be a year where their souls and their minds and their hearts are renewed so that their dreams are renewed. Because you transform us from the inside out. And I just thank you so much that you don't give up on us. You don't ever become weary of dreaming, and you don't ever become weary when we are weary. And so I just pray that for anyone who feels stuck, or feels like their dreams are impossible or has gone through any loss or trauma or disappointment, that felt like their dream in their identity went with it, that you would restore that and that you would bring something new to be We do believe that nothing is wasted. So no, no attempts to start dreams are wasted. None of their sketches, none of their brainstorming, nothing has been wasted. It's all going to be used. And so I pray that there would be a new momentum that they get to live out of a new place. And I pray that You would help people who maybe feel stuck or lost in their dream to believe that they are creating the future. And the future does depend on the dreams that are in their heart. And their dreams are there for a reason. And they're not to just be sitting there. So we asked for new interactions, new friendships, new relationships, new networking, new new gifts, new abundance, to meet, to meet people where they need it, God, you are a good guide and you know how to meet us and you know how to write a new story. You've written a beautiful story in my life. And this has really shown your kindness and your abundance. And so I just asked that in ways that would be really meaningful and powerful and world changing. You would do the same for everyone who listens to this a man to that. Amen. I'm so thankful for you. And I'm so excited for everything that you're pursuing. And I believe in you. And I can't wait to see where your company soars to this year lifts off girl lifts. Ah, that's right. And NASA. Yes, girl. What is your Instagram? Like if people want to follow you give us the date. Yep. So my Instagram is my personal one is at re ra y underscore wall. And I'm going to be launching the Instagram for my business in the next week. And so that's going to be at golden ray ra y collective. Follow me share things once I post them it's going to be it's going to be really neat space. That's right and if 2021 is the year you want to be extremely confident in what you're wearing. Come on, hit up your girl on give me a call send me a DM we'd love to talk with you. You you do that you would do this virtually to write you're not just limited to La based. Yeah, no, actually even in LA it's all been virtual just because of COVID. Runway. So Right. Yeah. Perfect and a book call. And you know what I have learned how to go through wardrobe on FaceTime. So the skills are they're so funny, who would have thought you'd need to know that? That's so funny. Well, I've so enjoyed our conversation, create and dream together and know that I love you, and I can't wait to chat with you soon, girl. So you are amazing. I love you so much grateful for you. And you really have been a friend this year, who has stood out to me have been like, I learned how to dream again. Because those in my life and, and like really like you and the stories and our conversations and how you have kind of done navigated. 2020 It really has done a lot for me. So it's special to be on this podcast with you. Because I'm like it feels full circle. It really is. And I man that blesses me to hear. So thank you so much. So I hope you guys feel a little bit more encouraged and inspired to act on those dreams. This year, let's hit some of the takeaways. One, when we believe the dream is just about us, it's easy to talk yourself out of it. But if you truly believe the dream is so much bigger than you, then it gives you a ton of momentum, never to having that mentality of even if what I'm going after doesn't work out. It's not going to be the end of me. Number three, do one small thing every single day that can get you closer to that dream because that truly will make a difference. And of course, share that dream with everyone for I loved when she said you can't grow from where you don't acknowledge that you actually are number five, love this takeaway. Don't put your dreams in a box. And be sure to hit up Rachel on Instagram at Ray underscore wall or at golden ray collective and I'll have the links below this as well. Now maybe this year, I don't know you're trying to focus on a dream and a goal of becoming more bold. Perhaps that's the case. If that is true, you may find this conversation I had with my brother about engaging in faith conversations. Very valuable. So click over there and I'll see you in the next video and if not, I'll see you in the next two weeks back here on accidentally intentional